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  1. #46
    bardoba

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    speaking of flawed analogies........ FFS

    youre comparing electricity to a data plan......... you do realize that the vast majority of people in america do not have a data plan....... its a luxury item...... its not an entitlement ....... its not even something you cant live without.... and theres no monopoly on cellphones........ I can drive into town today and choose from no less than 15 different providers ( SOME WHICH HAVE FREE DATA) .... thats capitalism and freedom of choice......... how many electric companies can you choose from in your town?????//

    some peoples children... sheesh

    if you want coddled buy your mommy something nice for Christmas..... its not VZWs job


    15 different companies? Sure. 95% of which still all pay the big two. Again, built with billions of dollars worth of public money & assets Thats not capitalism.


  2. #47
    aslamsha

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    by your definition there is no such thing as capitalsim in America...... theres not a single company in this country that you could name that didnt at some point get a tax subsidy or some sort of govt break.......... but this isnt the political forum so I wont get in a debate nitpicking the details of capitalism

    in general capitalism results in freedom of choice for the consumer......... and when it comes to cellphones....... there is PLENTY of choice....... you dont have to choose VZW........ you can choose any other provider........ and if that provider does happen to be a subsidiary of or making some payment to the big two who cares....... if they offer free data or dont require data..... then I would say youre digging an even deeper hole in flawed theory

    I guess you could say if the big two control all the smaller companies....... and the smaller companies are offering free or no requirement for data .... then by proxy the big two are still offering free or no requirement for data... so whats the problem here? by your reasoning VZW still has a plan for smartphones which doesnt require data packages....... its just branded under a different company name......... now thats capitalism at its finest right there


  3. #48
    bardoba

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    by your definition there is no such thing as capitalsim in America...... theres not a single company in this country that you could name that didnt at some point get a tax subsidy or some sort of govt break.......... but this isnt the political forum so I wont get in a debate nitpicking the details of capitalism

    in general capitalism results in freedom of choice for the consumer......... and when it comes to cellphones....... there is PLENTY of choice....... you dont have to choose VZW........ you can choose any other provider........ and if that provider does happen to be a subsidiary of or making some payment to the big two who cares....... if they offer free data or dont require data..... then I would say youre digging an even deeper hole in flawed theory

    I guess you could say if the big two control all the smaller companies....... and the smaller companies are offering free or no requirement for data .... then by proxy the big two are still offering free or no requirement for data... so whats the problem here? by your reasoning VZW still has a plan for smartphones which doesnt require data packages....... its just branded under a different company name......... now thats capitalism at its finest right there


    Actually there are a ton of companies in America that dont want or need government subsidies in order to build out and be successful. And also, a tax break isnt the same as being funded by taxpayer money, and using taxpayer assets. Completely different and your lack of comprehension is astounding.

    There is no point in explaining to someone who doesnt understand the concept of public assets.


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    avinashanand

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    Actually there are a ton of companies in America that dont want or need government subsidies in order to build out and be successful. And also, a tax break isnt the same as being funded by taxpayer money, and using taxpayer assets. Completely different and your lack of comprehension is astounding.

    There is no point in explaining to someone who doesnt understand the concept of public assets.


    Hey Iowa,

    I have to differ with you regarding a tax breaks as not being the same.

    The government needs X amount of dollars to run. When they give a company a tax break, the money to run the government has to come from somewhere.... i.e. the taxpayers... so whether the government flat gives the money away or gives it via a tax break, the dollars still come from the taxpayers. (taxpayer assets)

    Is this fun or what???? title=Smiletitle=Smile

    Oh yeah, I couldnt find anything on your Carter phones regs How bout providing a link to what youre referring to?

    Remember, the government cant give anybody anything until it first takes it from someone else.


  5. #50
    asmodi

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    yep my lack of comprehension is astounding......... lets get off topic and use personal attacks because we are wrong.......... doh

    VZW is a business........ if you dont like how they run their business then dont do business with them...... plain and simple

    there are plenty of other options out there for you....... without forcing a private business to change because youre whiney

    btw......... still cant find anything in re to carter phone...... guess I cant comprehend what it is.......... found plenty on carterfone though... a totally unrelated subject........ yep my comprehension is lacking indeed



 

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