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    ArtColo
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    It doesnt matter if the analogy is not perfect.... the point is the same... a company has the right to sell a service or an item the way they choose. The freedom of choice everyone is referring to is the freedom to buy from the company or NOT buy from the company. Your freedom is NOT to force the company to sell its service or item the way you want to buy it. Your freedom is to buy from a company that sells its service or item that is more to your liking.


    The analogy isnt flawed, its INVALID. Completely. No relation.

    Also, please look up Carter phone regulations before you carry on. Please.


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    The analogy isnt flawed, its INVALID. Completely. No relation.

    Also, please look up Carter phone regulations before you carry on. Please.


    Ok, forget the analogy.... is the following thought flawed also?

    a company has the right to sell a service or an item the way they choose. The freedom of choice everyone is referring to is the freedom to buy from the company or NOT buy from the company. Your freedom is NOT to force the company to sell its service or item the way you want to buy it. Your freedom is to buy from a company that sells its service or item that is more to your liking.

    title=SmileAll the best IOWAtitle=Smile


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    auvidi
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    thats kind of what makes capitalism........ well ..... capitalism

    dont like what theyre selling.......... you can always go to another carrier......... for that matter you can go without a cellphone at all

    I dont remember reading the inalienable right to bare cellphones in the constitution

    the whole coddle me society needs to get a grip on reality


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    bananin
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    thats kind of what makes capitalism........ well ..... capitalism

    dont like what theyre selling.......... you can always go to another carrier......... for that matter you can go without a cellphone at all

    I dont remember reading the inalienable right to bare cellphones in the constitution

    the whole coddle me society needs to get a grip on reality


    Ok, if thats your train of thought lets raise prices on other non neccesities that have near monopolies due to limitations in the industry. After all, people dont need electricity, right? I mean, this whole coddle me society really needs to get a grib on reality. title=Roll

    This thread has never been about whats a necessity and what isnt. I know a cellphone isnt essential to life. But i also know that all cell phone companies are built with public property, and have been funded with a large portion of taxpayer dollars, so there needs to be some sort of regulation here.

    When its all thought out, i think its really you who needs to get a grip on reality.

    And in order for it to have been true capitalism, they shouldnt have used any public assetts at all, but it didnt go that way.

    And again, i suggest you look up carter phone protections. This is all eerily similiar to just a few decades ago.


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    speaking of flawed analogies........ FFS

    youre comparing electricity to a data plan......... you do realize that the vast majority of people in america do not have a data plan....... its a luxury item...... its not an entitlement ....... its not even something you cant live without.... and theres no monopoly on cellphones........ I can drive into town today and choose from no less than 5 different providers ( SOME WHICH HAVE FREE DATA) just at the walmart kiosk.... thats capitalism and freedom of choice......... how many electric companies can you choose from in your town?????//

    some peoples children... sheesh

    if you want coddled buy your mommy something nice for Christmas..... its not VZWs job

    edit: tried to find something on Carter phone protections...... appears not to exist.......... hopefully you dont mean carterfone........ that would really put you out in left field on the analogies


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    speaking of flawed analogies........ FFS

    youre comparing electricity to a data plan......... you do realize that the vast majority of people in america do not have a data plan....... its a luxury item...... its not an entitlement ....... its not even something you cant live without.... and theres no monopoly on cellphones........ I can drive into town today and choose from no less than 15 different providers ( SOME WHICH HAVE FREE DATA) .... thats capitalism and freedom of choice......... how many electric companies can you choose from in your town?????//

    some peoples children... sheesh

    if you want coddled buy your mommy something nice for Christmas..... its not VZWs job


    15 different companies? Sure. 95% of which still all pay the big two. Again, built with billions of dollars worth of public money & assets Thats not capitalism.


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    by your definition there is no such thing as capitalsim in America...... theres not a single company in this country that you could name that didnt at some point get a tax subsidy or some sort of govt break.......... but this isnt the political forum so I wont get in a debate nitpicking the details of capitalism

    in general capitalism results in freedom of choice for the consumer......... and when it comes to cellphones....... there is PLENTY of choice....... you dont have to choose VZW........ you can choose any other provider........ and if that provider does happen to be a subsidiary of or making some payment to the big two who cares....... if they offer free data or dont require data..... then I would say youre digging an even deeper hole in flawed theory

    I guess you could say if the big two control all the smaller companies....... and the smaller companies are offering free or no requirement for data .... then by proxy the big two are still offering free or no requirement for data... so whats the problem here? by your reasoning VZW still has a plan for smartphones which doesnt require data packages....... its just branded under a different company name......... now thats capitalism at its finest right there


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    by your definition there is no such thing as capitalsim in America...... theres not a single company in this country that you could name that didnt at some point get a tax subsidy or some sort of govt break.......... but this isnt the political forum so I wont get in a debate nitpicking the details of capitalism

    in general capitalism results in freedom of choice for the consumer......... and when it comes to cellphones....... there is PLENTY of choice....... you dont have to choose VZW........ you can choose any other provider........ and if that provider does happen to be a subsidiary of or making some payment to the big two who cares....... if they offer free data or dont require data..... then I would say youre digging an even deeper hole in flawed theory

    I guess you could say if the big two control all the smaller companies....... and the smaller companies are offering free or no requirement for data .... then by proxy the big two are still offering free or no requirement for data... so whats the problem here? by your reasoning VZW still has a plan for smartphones which doesnt require data packages....... its just branded under a different company name......... now thats capitalism at its finest right there


    Actually there are a ton of companies in America that dont want or need government subsidies in order to build out and be successful. And also, a tax break isnt the same as being funded by taxpayer money, and using taxpayer assets. Completely different and your lack of comprehension is astounding.

    There is no point in explaining to someone who doesnt understand the concept of public assets.


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    Actually there are a ton of companies in America that dont want or need government subsidies in order to build out and be successful. And also, a tax break isnt the same as being funded by taxpayer money, and using taxpayer assets. Completely different and your lack of comprehension is astounding.

    There is no point in explaining to someone who doesnt understand the concept of public assets.


    Hey Iowa,

    I have to differ with you regarding a tax breaks as not being the same.

    The government needs X amount of dollars to run. When they give a company a tax break, the money to run the government has to come from somewhere.... i.e. the taxpayers... so whether the government flat gives the money away or gives it via a tax break, the dollars still come from the taxpayers. (taxpayer assets)

    Is this fun or what???? title=Smiletitle=Smile

    Oh yeah, I couldnt find anything on your Carter phones regs How bout providing a link to what youre referring to?

    Remember, the government cant give anybody anything until it first takes it from someone else.


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    yep my lack of comprehension is astounding......... lets get off topic and use personal attacks because we are wrong.......... doh

    VZW is a business........ if you dont like how they run their business then dont do business with them...... plain and simple

    there are plenty of other options out there for you....... without forcing a private business to change because youre whiney

    btw......... still cant find anything in re to carter phone...... guess I cant comprehend what it is.......... found plenty on carterfone though... a totally unrelated subject........ yep my comprehension is lacking indeed


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